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Locke DieDrake
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.08.16 00:00:00 -
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What you may or may not find offensive is meaningless.
What the majority may or may not find offensive is also meaningless.
You people need to grow a thicker skin. Seriously.
I think it's fine that you asked him to stop, and when he didn't, you should have podded him. Just to prove a point.
But getting bent out of shape by something like this is a big waste of time and energy.
To each their own I guess. My policy is live and let live. But then again, I've been on the internet since it started, and the internet is one of the best places on earth to be highly offended. You get over it or you go away. Its really your call.
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Locke DieDrake
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.08.16 20:05:00 -
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 Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Valan
Edited by: Valan on 16/08/2006 19:02:01
You have to take into account cultural difference, The word retarded is probably frowned upon by most in the uk. If you use it here I immediatley discount the person entirely as not worth listening to. Americans use it more freely and you have to allow for it.
A very interesting point. Also interesting that if you look at the posts made 'overnight' by UK time standard (i.e. predominance of US players) they support use of the word, whereas during EU active times there's more dislike of the phrase.
I don't speak for all of us here in the USA. But you do realise we aren't so much supporting the use of the word as supporting your right to say whatever you want.
I personally find it repulsive that people use it this way, but I will defend to the death their right to do so.
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Locke DieDrake
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.08.16 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
I personally find it repulsive that people use it this way, but I will defend to the death their right to do so.
Their right to do so *where*?
Anywhere that it is not specificly forbiden.
IE: in eve, online, to your face, at the mall, wherever.
In the context of eve, people should be able to say what they want, if it offends you, then you petition it and the people thats job it is to decide if they want that in their game will make a call on it.
It is not for this forum or anyone on it to decide that retarded, or any other word is "offensive". The very idea that a word can be offensive is repugnant to me. In other words. CONTEXT is king.
But my original post still stand also. Which is that people just need to get over their pansy feelings about how they are upset or hurt or offended by something some asshat said in a chat window.
You think you're offended now? Lets have a chat on the phone, I'll change your definition of the word offended.
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Locke DieDrake
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.08.16 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Ioudas Iskariotes
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Well that's easy. What's more important is CCP's policy on offensive language. If someone breaks it, it is your duty to petition them.
The problem is that "offensive" is subjective. And hence unless you outlaw specific "offensive" speech then there is no way to define what is or is not offensive.
Which is the GM's job. Your job is to report anything you think may be offensive. If you're being patently stupid and reporting words like "the" and "which", you'll get a warning for frivolous petitions.
No, thats STUPID. "think may be" WTF?
If you are deeply offended by something someone says, then report it. If not, just walk away. You have no reason to be going around trying to clean up the language used in the galaxy.
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Locke DieDrake
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.08.16 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Valan
Edited by: Valan on 16/08/2006 20:36:20
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
I don't speak for all of us here in the USA. But you do realise we aren't so much supporting the use of the word as supporting your right to say whatever you want.
I personally find it repulsive that people use it this way, but I will defend to the death their right to do so.
I realise it's constitutional but in some cases it would be better if the person involved would shut up. I've seen Americans using racist language in the market channel and get banned for it. They were adamant they had the right to say anything.
In the UK you're not allowed to say just anything. The best example is the recent cases where people have been jailed for encouraging others to blow up planes. The bad side is sometimes people are accused unjustly of being prejudiced.
I can see good in bad in both approaches, its important to be aware of cultural difference if you don't want a smack in the teeth. 
I concure. I censor myself when in polite company. (and in eve) But at the same time, I will support your right to say whatever you want. As long as you understand there are consequences for your actions and you may incure consequences you didn't plan on. Like having your ass beat down by someone. Or being banned from a place.
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